Posted by: tootingtrumpet | October 3, 2009

Champions Trophy – England Report Card

England's Numbers Four and Five for the next two World Cups?

England's Numbers Four and Five for the next two World Cups?

At full strength, England would win one in three matches vs Australia; shorn of KP and Flintoff, one in four; after an Ashes win, one in eight – and so it turned out as Australia crushed England to remove them from a tournament in which Strauss’ men over-achieved, but only because expectations were so low.

Andrew Strauss – Too much is being asked of him: he won’t step back from a challenge, but the man needs a break and now he will get it.

Joe Denly – Is finding the transition to international cricket difficult, but has impressed some good judges, though not this one.

Ravi Bopara – As Joe Denly, but has had a lot longer to come to terms with the international game. That Damien Martyn took so long to establish himself is the one reason the Trumpet continues to believe.

Owais Shah – Can be very good; can be very bad and is a terrible fielder. Unlikely to get a sniff of a place from any other team except WI and NZ, but is vital for England. He is the weather vane of England’s ODI side.

Colly – Had a bit of time off and came back determined to play his shots and did so, but couldn’t play the senior batsman role when he needed to.

Eoin Morgan – Lightening in the field and probably the answer to England’s search for a new Fairbrother / Bevan to finish off an innings with invention and power. A find, but with Ireland playing ODIs and Eoin having played for Ireland, he really should be representing Trent’s boys.

Matt Prior – Like Strauss, has been asked to do too much this summer and it showed.

Steven Davies –  Parachuting a player in against the Aussies in a crucial must win match is a tactic that will work once in a generation, not twice in six weeks.

Luke Wright – four matches, one wicket, sixty runs: either a wasted spot or not good enough. Probably a bit of both.

Stuart Broad – Missed a match or two recently with injury and returned to bowl with real aggression and take wickets. Now the second name on the team sheet after the captain and will need careful protection if not to be broken by the workload. Should be aiming to be Player of the Tournament at the next World Cup.

Tim Bresnan – nearly disproved The Trumpet’s comments re Steven Davies above and saved England from utter embarrassment with his semi-final 80, but, truth be told, the match was already gone and the pressure was off. May grow into a useful replacement for Broad at 8, but fellow Yorkshireman Adil Rashid is surely the classier player.

Swanny – Showed signs of too much cricket impacting on his performance. After runs and wickets in the Ashes and a pounding in the ODI series and now the Champions Trophy, he deserves a break.

Jimmy Anderson – After just one wicket in the second half of The Ashes, he found South Africa’s early Spring more conducive to his skills. Still needs to have something to fall back on when conditions don’t suit.

Graham Onions – His wicket to wicket line, which is such an asset in Test cricket, can make him easy to pick off in the ODI stuff. Thinks hard about his bowling though and may well adapt his style successfully.

Ryan Sidebottom – Came in for the odd game, as he does these days, and is unlikely to play much more in the future, especially as he is so restricted in the field.

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  1. Tooting, thanks for the contribution. But I think you’ve been reading too many English papers:
    “Andrew Strauss – Too much is being asked of him:… the man needs a break and now he will get it.”
    Too much cricket? Unlike you to day that. It’s hgis job.
    “Eoin Morgan – …but with Ireland playing ODIs and Eoin having played for Ireland, he really should be representing Trent’s boys.”
    Ireland an England are close, it’s not SA, but still, I wish England would stop importing. The odd player happens, but it’ becoming a habit. But yes, he did well.

    “Stuart Broad …Now the second name on the team sheet after the captain …Should be aiming to be Player of the Tournament at the next World Cup.”
    You are joking surely? He will be a champion, just like Panesar and Anderson were going to be? I don’t believe he has the cojones to be more than an occasional success.
    “Swanny – Showed signs of too much cricket impacting on his performance. After runs and wickets in the Ashes and a pounding in the ODI series and now the Champions Trophy, he deserves a break.” Oh, he’s tired, poor boy. Watson wasn’t tired yesterday. Nor Hauritz, who has been under immense mental pressure for 6 months, arriving in Engla.

    • Fred – Your right in that I usually think that the players need more cricket and not less. But I do think it’s too much to expect anyone in any job to raise their games to a peak over and over again. I think some England players have played too much in 2009 – I’d be surprised if Watson and Hauritz have played anything like as much, but Hussey and MJ have, and it shows a bit there.

      Broad may fade, but from where he stands now, his aim should be that high.

  2. nd to a mocking welcome.
    “Jimmy Anderson – After just one wicket in the second half of The Ashes…Still needs to have something to fall back on when conditions don’t suit.”

    In other words, only good in English conditions. Not the champion he was expected to be.
    “Graham Onions – His wicket to wicket line, which is such an asset in Test cricket, can make him easy to pick off in the ODI stuff. ”
    ie; another player showing his limitations.
    And it seems Warne was right about Bopara, it wasn’t just pre-Ashes propoganda.

    Sorry if I seem grumpy, but there is so much excuse making regarding England. They’re not that good and they should concentrate on basics. Yet another run-out went begging yesterday because the bowler didn’t get back to the stumps, prefering to stand and watch, and hope.
    Never thought I’d say this, but I’m sort of hoping KP comes back soon.

    • You’ll get no argument from me about sloppy England cricket and that the team can blow very cold as well as hot, if not red hot.

  3. Sorry if I sound a bit negative but I don’t think Engalnd needs analysis, they need a kick up the backside. Maybe Fletcher needs to be brought back.
    Also, I disagree about Bresnan and think you were unfair on him. The match was not lost at all at that point, and he provided a competitive total. His innings was not played at all under a “lost cause” lack of pressure. He’ll probably never doi it again in his life, but he did well yesterday. He certainly had Ponting frowning.

    • Re Bresnan – if he had hit the first ball straight to mid-off, nobody would have blamed him for the defeat. Not zero pressure, but not much.

  4. Anyone know where there is some decent online video available? Free or paid.
    I’ll stop now.

  5. cricket-onlinetv or something like that. For highlights of the games.

    Just in terms of your bowlers,

    I don’t agree about Swanny. He is new to international cricket and surely should be up for everything. He can look really disinterested at times. It is hard for spin bowlers in odi’s as the captains rarely set properly attacking fielders for them but his job is to learn how to deal with that.

    Broad’s bowling was poor at times, but he has the knack of picking up wickets, I think he is learning to use his height and will get better for sure. He always wants the ball in his hands as well which is an excellent trait. They need to nurse him though.

    I thought Anderson was the best of your bowlers by a mile. It isn’t all about wickets in ODI’s. I have never seen him contain so well.

    Graham Onions will go for a ton one of these days, but he can get wickets.

    • Swanny – In 2009, he has played 10 Tests, 12 ODIs and 5 T20s. That’s a lot of international cricket.

  6. Oh look, Collingwood has a buttock niggle too. After Broad, this is getting to be a bit unexplainable.

  7. http://www.nick4all.com/icc-champions-trophy-2009/2nd-semi-final-pakistan-vs-new-zealand-3rd-october-2009-watch-full-match/msg4621/#msg4621

    I think this might work for you, Fred.. I have been able to get live pics all the way through the series from here, often having to switch servers a bit, but in the end, I get a live stream for hours of every match so far..

    this site above is where you can download the entire match previously played, so good luck .

    • Thanks Pepp.

  8. Yes, the lovely Vettori. He leads a fine bunch of blokes who are not around to muck around, I couldn’t be more thrilled with the outcome of this series so far.

    I draw a veil over the match Eng V Au, it would require a far more advanced attitude of scorn than I possess to analyse the Eng demonstration of cricket so on to NZ v Pak, and the Vettori way of doing an ODI.

    Many is the time NZ has made millions in AU weep and gnash the teeth, with a lot of low moaning and I expect that to be repeated on Monday night ( Sydney time) with the usual extra added prongs and pokes that only NZ can deliver.

    Where DOES NZ get ’em? Cricket being a long way back secondary sport in the Land of the Long White Cloud, and mostly they get them not only gifted but eye candy as well. I include Styris in this !!…

  9. oops.. you will need to register and all that stuff, Fred, but it’s not a prolonged procedure.

  10. And I tested this site after I put it up, typical, but it’s working fine, one downloads each over of each innings, works a real treat. Good luck!!.

    This is the site you eventually get to.

    http://www.upbulk.com/media/video.php?id=23885

  11. of course, you can also get the replay of the AU v ENG match, and download the Punter and Watto taking it right up to Strauss and the Sinkers , sit back and enjoy!!.

  12. Eliott and Dan batted perfectly tonight – once Younus dropped the sitter!

  13. oh golly, I watched a replay of the AU innings, Eng v AU all over again, and it was mighty sweet the second time around, sweeter, really.

    replaying the NZ innings v Pak is just simply superb cricket over after over, magnificent.

  14. I’ve been trying that site pepp but gave up in exasperation and went back to cricinfo test because the images, poor quality anyway, constantly freeze, servers close down, or msesages pop up asking me to pay. Is it any better once you register? I’m normally reluctant to interact with such sites.

  15. I have found it to be extremely good, fred.. nothing seems to have backfired on me for registering..

    I spend about 5 mins out of every 30 reloading another server during a live match, which is fine since it’s free, and today was the first time I tried the replay site, and it was very good for me. Don’t know if it has anything to do with my download speed, or my server, which is BigPond ( Telstra) Au, the biggest bandits on the block, or if I am just lucky.

    I wish it worked for you. It has been invaluable for me, if only I had known earlier about the replay site I could have had a bit more kip this last week, and looked a lot better for it, I am sure of this, but hey.. cricket fanatics know no boundaries.

  16. If looking for a way to watch the final I suggest downloading either a Sopcast player or the TVU player. You’ll need to have a pipe that is at least 512k too. I’ve been using this method for over two years and rarely am I let down. Sometimes the correct channel is a tad difficult to find but I’ve found a quick method to secure the right one and I’ll post them in this thread when the match starts tomorrow if requested.

  17. Thanks both of you. I’ll try sopcast. Nesta do you get the channel off the same site pepp is using?
    Aside from the image quality, the other prolem is often Bob Willis is commentating. Do you have softwre that blocks his voice?

  18. No not the same as Pepp. Usually you can choose between several channels some with the English Sky feed and others from India and Pakistan with English commentary. The picture is usually very good and there are few interruptions. I’ll stick the channel number on here a few minutes after the match begins. Good Luck.

  19. I have sopcast poised for action Nesta, but I don’t see any sports channels on the guide.

  20. I failed to find the match on Sopcast but there are several very good feeds if you use a TVU player. Download it and type cricket in the search box and you’ll be away in no time.

  21. OK, thanks.


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