Posted by: tootingtrumpet | January 26, 2011

Australia vs England Fourth ODI – The Final Over of the Day

Australia Day, if not Australia's day

Ball One – Matt Prior may not be England’s best opening option, but his package of orthodox strokeplay and much improved keeping is surely good enough to warrant his place over Steve Davies .To score fifty plus at better than a run a ball is good work from a player in whom England now place significant faith.

Ball Two – Eoin Morgan has made his reputation as an improviser in a team of traditionally lacking in the kind of imagination that other sides can call upon through the order. But pre-meditating a reverse lap with a man placed square of the wicket has all the percentages against him. With more than eight overs left in the innings, that was not clever cricket.

Ball Three – Number Eight is such a key position in all forms of the game. Michael Yardy has plenty of detractors, but can do ugly jobs well. Fiddling through 6 middle overs or batting at a run a ball with few wickets in hand are his roles in the side. He has the experience and nous to deliver that brief – and did so to get England from a decent score to a good one.

Ball Four – It’s never been clear to me how groundsmen (curators) can produce a strip that can last five days, but so many one day pitches deteriorate markedly over the 100 overs of an ODI. England’s slow and slowish bowlers contributed to the problem, but Australia found it very hard to time the ball consistently. The toss shouldn’t really matter that much

Ball Five – England’s improvement has come not through any one individual raising their game, but from a contributions through the team with runs from the top three and lower middle order and wickets from five bowlers. That augurs well for the World Cup – so long as England back up this performance with three more strong showings in the last three matches of this long tour. Four wins may be too much to expect – but capitulations would not be welcome just now.

Ball Six – Good crowd for Australia Day which largely stayed the course – plenty of kids in too. Good for cricket, but it may encourage the next two Ashes tours to be scheduled with seven ODIs each. With the cycle changing to avoid clashes with the World Cup, that would mean 14 England vs Australia ODIs within six months or so. That is surely too many for 2013!


The Tooting Trumpet, whom you can often find at Testmatchsofa.com and on Twitter at @garynaylor999 and @Fakeadil.

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  1. Ball seven (a Free Hit): Trott’s detractors in the ODI form have clearly failed to understand the difference between 50 over and 20 over cricket. In the longer short form, a guy who can regularly carry his bat and score at a reasonable, if not spectacular, rate is the spine you build a total around.

    • gg – Trott is very good indeed and delivers more often than not. Some players seem to attract criticism too quickly.

  2. So is this the type of pitch we are to expect during the world cup?
    It puts the Australian game plan into a bit of perspective. But at least we have a game plan now, unlike in the Ashes.
    If Tait or Binga, get injured then they should be replaced by someone who can bowl cutters with no pace like Andrew McDonald.
    We then pray that after a couple of sessions the batters get used to the slow conditions, although I’d rather White is either moved up the order or put into bat at the fall of the first wicket after the balls are changed (and we then take the batting power play) as he’s not a great starter against spin.
    Having said all that, it might be no harm for the future of Australian cricket if we suck at this world cup.

    • Jim, this is probably a minority view (and comes from an Indian), but I would be highly surprised if Australia suck at this WC…despite the selection snafus and injury worries at this stage. Coz remember that Aus are a shoo-in to the Q/Fs, which will only start on Mar 23…so plenty of time for Mike Hussey to recover, and the rest of the team to acclimatize and formulate strategies. Then it’s down to 3 crunch games in a row…and as an Indian, I think the toughest opponents for us in that phase will be SL, Aus and Pakistan…coz all 3 have a history of raising their game when it’s crunch time at the WC. And don’t forget that many of these same players managed to pull off a 4-2 win vs India in Oct 2009, when again there were a lot of injury problems.

      So I’m not saying Australia are favourites in my book…but they will definitely take some beating.

    • God, how awful but I agree. Wins at ODI’s are just giving more chances for those in charge of management, selection, coaching to run for cover.

  3. BP – I’m with you. The format of the WC means that there are a lot of matches that will be less than critical, so there’s time to work things out. And pick up injuries I suppose.

    Not so many sliding stops today I see.

  4. Asian Cup focus right now! We may end up holding some soccer (football) silverware while England hold the Ashes. Doesn’t seem right….

    • I’d swap a Continental Cup win over the Ashes. The cricket administrators, selectors and players could learn plenty from soccer. It was a minor basket case of a sport before 2004 and even allowing for Pim look at what they’ve achieved in six short years!

      • I saw some footage of an A-League match the other day (well actually it was a clip of yet another horrific tackle from Kevin Muscat….). It seemed like there was a really decent crowd in, which surprised me. When I was in Aus 6 years ago the entire competition was a joke and nobody went along to watch it. Certainly seems like you’re doing something right down there.

        • A rather interesting night for crowds that one, actually. Melbourne A-League teams have normally got good crowds. That was the derby, so it sold out at 32 thousand. The T20 up the road was a disappointing 17 thousand (down from 45 thousand on the equivalent evening last year), the tennis between the two stadiums had 26 thousand.

          I suspect, given Victoria’s abjectness this year, the added interest in the England internationals, Tomic v Nadal at the tennis, and the football derby, the cricket was always up against it. But it does raise some interesting questions about the likely success of the BBL next season. The crowd at the game tomorrow will also be closely watched.

          nesta, I’ve felt for a while now (more than three years) that cricket is the real poorly run sport in Australia. It has every advantage you could want – blanket news and free to air coverage, consistently high tv ratings, the only truly national sport in Australia, has lots of juniors, and overseas interest ($) without concerns over player poaching. And yet it gets the lowest total crowd figures, and supports the smallest professional player base.

        • As Russ says, that was the Melbourne derby. The A-League is not looking very healthy crowd-wise. In 2007/8, only Perth averaged crowds of less than 10000, and Melbourne Victory averaged 26000. The league average crowd was over 14000.

          In 2008/9, that average dropped to 12000. Then the A-League expanded with two extra Queensland teams, and that has been a disaster – North Queensland are barely surviving financially, and Gold Coast United play in front of 3000 fans. This season only two clubs are averaging crowds more than 10000.

      • Holger seems a far better coach for Australia than Pim was. I think The Kaiser gave Frank Lowy some fine advice when suggesting Holger. He’s already finding some great younger players such as Matt MacKay.

  5. I’m shouting for Aus – Tim Cahlill’s other team!!

  6. Well at least our Women did us proud in the cricket.
    As for Kevin Muscat. Instead of a ban for the rest of the season, deportation back to Wolverhampton would be more fitting.

    • Jim – Don’t do to us what we did to you all those yeas ago!

  7. This series is more of getting the combination right.
    As long as Ricky comes back and does well with the bat, Australia will do fine.
    England – they have come a long way as competitors now and are actually contenders for the title.
    Clarke needs to go – really, a Kim Hughes situation is building up here and if Ricky is not available for Sri Lanka, I fear we may have a repeat of Kim Hughes. Who can be captain if Ricky doesnt want to be captain and focusses on his batting now?

    • Clarke is batting poorly, but his captaincy is miles ahead of Ricky’s and he’s getting the men to play for him.

      • l know he is only a knock away etc but geez in some of those innings he has been all at sea. Really reaching for it, clutching at it, holding on too tight in the literal and psychological sense. The break pre-World Cup may be the best thing for him, just to let it all go a bit.

        • Japal – He has batted with no confidence and a technique that’s suffering, but he has impressed as a leader in the field and, I have to say, as a man under big pressure. This may be the re-making of him – once he gets that knock.

  8. Stop being so fickle. Clarke is a quality batsman, and has performed well over time, he’ll come good. Remember how M Waugh got the nickname Audi?

    Aus performance has improved but I suspect the 3-1 scoreline has as much to do with Eng as Aus.

    Disturbing trend that the boring bowlers seem to be getting the results. Collingwood, Trott, Yardy, Hussey, (Trott!) in the wickets. Will this format eventually see yet another tansformation, where power bowlers reassert themselves?

    Couldn’t agree more Nesta with your previous post re 2020. I stopped complaining to avoid be a broken record but I see no value in the format. We didn’t need 2020 to improve fielding. Aus didn’t need 2020 to score 4 an over in tests. I think the whole 2020/India Rules/Dancing Girls/Stanford/$$$!!! hysteria thing will evolve and mature over time, and cricket will essentially continue. We’ll just have to put up with some hysterics in the meantime.

    • I’ll link to a post awaiting publication at spincricket.com I have written about boring cricketers ruling ODIs and T20Is.

      • l don’t doubt Clarke will be back in the runs at Test level at some stage. That’s not really the question. The question for him and others for the past year or more is how to best make that happen. Perhaps skippering the side to a series win will assist but to date a Summer of in the glare antipathy has not proved helpful. l think he could do with some room to let go of it all a little before the real business at the World Cup.

      • Look forward to it. I hope you’re not going to tell me the future is Jonathon Trott stamping on my face, forever.

        • Previous post was in respect to Tootings comment.

          Japaljarri, yes it hasn’t been the best environment for him, with the pressure on the team this summer. But some respond to pressure, others need a break, if I knew the best way to solve that chestnut I’d be in great demand as a coach. Despite the bad publicity he gets he’s struck me as a fairly level headed sort of guy, he’ll work it out.

          Great laughs from the Ali Cook trash talk quoted in cricinfo! “No one walks over me, no one ever will”. I wonder if he had his baseball cap on backwards when he said that. I seem to remember Cook has been walked over a few times in his cricketing life. He must be really enjoying the thought of all those runs he made in the last few months. Cricket could do with a bit more trash talk like this I think. After KP’s statement about how his captaincy debacle triggered the English resurgence he has been disappointingly quiet. I guess Strauss told him to sock it.

          • http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/01/29/3124830.htm Some time in the middle gaining confidence would be a good move l reckon

          • fred – The context of Cook’s remarks is important. He is responding to claims that he is posh, an ex-choirboy and not a sledger (all of which is true). he is now the undisputed heir as captain, so was taking time to point out that he was not a soft touch. That’s hardly trash talk, which is more boxers belittling their opponents. Like most England players in the Flower regime, he says nothing or very little about opponents.

            See this piece I wrote about why England’s cricketers have to be more visible in the Media – http://www.spincricket.com/2011/01/24/who-won-at-what-and-what-does-that-mean/

            • Right, so we need Paris Hiltons to promote cricket? Is that what your piece meant? Have fun in your 2020 ghetto.

              Re Cook, fair enough. I have no idea of the context, just read the quote on cricinfo and laughed because he seemed to be impersonating the Mohamed Ali. The little Cook has said so far has been entirely sensible, which made his “no man touches me” statement so remarkable. On past form, if he wanted to point out he was not a soft touch, he would just say so, but his choice of idiom on this occasion was amusing.

        • Not quite Trotty Fred – but you’re close.

          • Well thank God for that, what a relief, nothing could be worse. Other than…no…surely not, not Yar…aaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

  9. Here’s a review of the teams for the World Cup, by a popular Indian blogger ‘Great Bong’:

    http://greatbong.net/2011/01/28/world-cup-2011-team-analysis/#more-19797

    Great Bong’s sense of humour may be a little ‘different’, but I agree largely with his analysis, especially the order in which the teams are ranked.On current form and team combination, SA and SL look likely to be finalists, but both Eng and India should be hopeful of making the semis too. Will this be the first semi finals without Aus?Possible, but whoever plays them in the QF, will have to manage a perfect game, and even then it will be a close run thing.

    • “7. West Indies: This is the team of mercenaries, have-money-shall-bat traveling salesmen players who can just as well as play for you if suitably paid. The difference between them and Pakistan is that they will wear your jersey and play for you whereas Pakistanis will play for you while wearing their own colors.”

      That hurts.

  10. http://cricketwpa.blogspot.com/2011/01/ashes-2010-2011-series-totals.html

    • Japal – I found some of the numbers at that site a little hard to credit (Trott’s for example) but it’s interesting. Their graphs of the movement in probability of win, lose and draw as a match progresses are very interesting.

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